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Postby ElGringo » 2002/09/08 Sun 10:19 am

My question is this:

On Hisa's title page, there's a South Korea section, and I'm just curious to the origins of Korean puroresu, and how far it got. I'm assuming that Kintaro Ohki promoted cards there (hence his Korean group being on the NWA membership roster at one time); did he trai wrestlers? And what happened to Korean puroresu when Ohki retired? Did it just die out?

I know this site deals with puroresu, Japanese wrestling, but there does not appear to be a Korean wrestling resouce. If you could point me to one, that would be greatly appreciated.
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Postby Hisaharu Tanabe » 2002/09/09 Mon 8:35 pm

Pro-wrestling is still alive in South Korea. Couple years ago, Lou Thesz went there to act as a commissionor for an organization called WWA, run by LEE Wang-pyou, who was trained by KIM Ill(Kintaro Ohki).

However, pro-wrestling in Korea was popular only when Kim was still active. After that, it has only been a minor sport.

There's a Japanese guy who is trying to compile the history of pro-wrestling from just about any country. I read the secion on South Korea, but I'm not sure if I have time to translate everything. It was mainly about the political conflict between Kim and another Korean star CHANG Yong-Chol.
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Postby ElGringo » 2002/09/10 Tue 3:27 pm

Cool, that resource sounds great! Does it deal with wrestling from Central and South America? (Which I'm also interested in).
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Postby Hisaharu Tanabe » 2002/09/10 Tue 5:42 pm

Not much. He mentions a Brazilian tour by Rikidozan as well as Hiro Matsuda's early career in Peru. He also mentions Argentine and the Caribbeans in few paragraphs. This is only a draft, so I don't know how much more he will have when he actually publishes this book near futre. (I hope he does publish this)
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Postby ElGringo » 2002/09/11 Wed 2:51 pm

I guess Rikidozan would been a large draw in Brazil due to the high levels of Japanese expats there?

Does this writer only want to publish in Japanese?
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Postby ElGringo » 2002/09/15 Sun 10:50 am

Is this resource online? If so, could you point me to it?
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Postby Hisaharu Tanabe » 2002/09/15 Sun 7:36 pm

<a href='http://www.ne.jp/asahi/wrestling/history/history/contents.htm' target='_blank'>http://www.ne.jp/asahi/wrestling/history/h...ry/contents.htm</a>

incomplete, though.
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Postby ElGringo » 2002/09/16 Mon 12:38 pm

Thanks.
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Postby Tradition Rules » 2002/09/20 Fri 2:07 pm

If you are interested in wrestling in Korea or even the history or titles,you may want to check out the DVD of the korean movie "The Foul King".

It is a comedy about Pro Wrestling and a satire on the white collar class in Korean Society.It is the all time top grossing Korean comedy and 2nd all time grossing Korean movie overall.


In the opening to the film,some old wrestling footage on a TV in black and white is shown and I believe Kim Ill is in the footage.There is also a scene in the film where the main character in a dream sequence is holding the actual old All Asia Heavyweight belt used in All Japan and Korea.The belt was later used exclusively in Korea when Kim Ill purchased the belt from All Japan.

I bought the Hong Kong version because it was $5.00 cheaper than the original Korean version and because the Hon Kong version is relesed by Tai Seng Video Marketing.Both version were open/all region DVDs,but I've read that some open region DVDs have trouble being read on Amercian DVD players,or even a PS2,if thats what you have.But I've also read that Tai Seng's releases have no trouble being read,so while I would have much rater had the original Korean version,I felt I was better off going with the sure thing.

If you are interested in purchasing it,their web-sit is <a href='http://www.taisen.com' target='_blank'>www.taisen.com</a>.

On a side note,does anyone know where I might be able to purchasse some wrestling tapes from Korea,either WWA or GWF?I read that about 2 or 3 years ago one of the promotions had a red hot show at a small out door arena/stadium.I believe it was the GWF,and NO, I KNOW it wasn't the New Japan show in North Korea. I'm just looking for something a little different that might suprise me.

Thanks!

T.R!
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Is the resource moved to anywhere?

Postby DecadentScion » 2004/07/16 Fri 4:22 pm

I am sorry for asking this question maybe two years too late but has the wrestling history resource been moved to anywhere? Or Hisaharu, do you know of any books that explore the history of wrestling worldwide (maybe with tidbits on other Asian countries and Latin America?) or a worldwide history of kakutougi/MMA (or sportsfighting like Vale Tudo) in a similar manner? Thanks in advanced.
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Postby Hisaharu Tanabe » 2004/07/16 Fri 5:54 pm

<!--QuoteBegin-DecadentScion+--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (DecadentScion)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I am sorry for asking this question maybe two years too late but has the wrestling history resource been moved to anywhere?[/quote]It's gone. Author closed the site few months ago. I believe he started publishing magazines similar to the site content, but it's all in Japanese, and I haven't read it yet.
do you know of any books that explore the history of wrestling worldwide (maybe with tidbits on other Asian countries and Latin America?)
Not that I know...unless the forementioned magazine covers such topic.
You can check the links on my website, but I don't have anything for Latin America or Asia (beside Japan and Mexico, of course).
<a href='http://"http://www.wrestling-titles.com/links/"' target='_blank'>http://www.wrestling-titles.com/links/</a>
or a worldwide history of kakutougi/MMA (or sportsfighting like Vale Tudo) in a similar manner? Thanks in advanced.
I believe this is the best site for that:
<a href='http://"http://www.ejmas.com/"' target='_blank'>http://www.ejmas.com/</a>
Covers some pro-wrestling, including Great Gama, Benjamin Roller, Sorakichi Matsuda, etc.
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Postby DecadentScion » 2004/07/16 Fri 6:28 pm

Thanks anyways Mr Tanabe. Can you tell me what the author's name is so maybe I could try to find his works at either Book Off, Asahiya, or Kinokuniya bookstores? I can read some kanji and I have some friends who can help translate for me.

I like EJMAS, but their book, Martial Arts in the Modern World is not in any commercial bookstores and its expensive to buy from online. The Journal of Asian Martial Arts, which has many of the same writers, has an article this issue with Jujitsu vs Pro Catch Wrestling in Spain.
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Postby Hisaharu Tanabe » 2004/07/17 Sat 12:59 am

His name is Yasuhiko Morozumi, but I doubt they carry the book at any of the stores you mentioned around NYC. Then again, I live in Westchester and haven't been to those stores for few months...
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